Facebook Poker; reprise

by ~ August 20th, 2008. Filed under: Basics of poker.


My last post which reviewed Poker For Dummies made me think of Facebook poker.

One of my friends (who I was playing Scrabulous with, and with whom I’ve tried to initiate Wordscraper with but she hasn’t picked up the game yet) still plays poker on Facebook. She occasionally tries to get me to join by sending me invites but I’m really not interested since my first experiences with Facebook poker.

Facebook itself continues to be successful, so there’s no doubt that any application like a Holdem poker game would also continue to be successful no matter how poor the software might be. It’s more about socializing and sand lizards hitting on girls (your profile picture shows as an avatar at the table) than it is about poker for poker’s sake.

And because poker on Facebook is popular in spite of it’s faults, it spawns all kinds of related internet activity, such as

  1. websites that claim to sell Facebook poker chips. One that I saw claimed that ebay has outlawed the sale of Facebook poker chips but this site will sell them to you by chip dumping; ie. you sit down at a table with them and they bet and you bet and then they fold on the river so you win the chips no matter what the hand. I dunno about Facebook, but that’s illegal on any legitimate poker site.
  2. craigslist and kijiji listings also offering to sell Facebook poker chips
  3. Full Tilt and Bodog both have references on their site specifically geared towards Facebook poker players who might be interested in “upgrading”
  4. Sites discussing “cheats” for Facebook poker

Of these, 3. is simply a marketing target. These sites are acknowledging the popularity of poker on Facebook and are giving potential members something to identify with if they are in that category of potential members. 1. and 2. are an indication of how popular poker on Facebook is if people think that there are people willing to pay money for chips. If you buy something on ebay at least you have the seller’s references to give you some assurance, but I don’t know what kind of assurances you get if you try to buy chips via craigslist.

And 4. is both an indication of the popularity of poker on Facebook as well as some perceived value to winning and/or chip value. With any popular computer program people will be looking for mods or tips (for those who like to customize), cheats or tips (for those who like to jump ahead or progress faster like in adventure type games) or hacks (for those who like to cheat).

For some, the thrill of cheating, of beating the system in and of itself is an attraction, especially if you find the method yourself. That’s what hacking was originally all about back in the days of Kevin Mitnick and his friends. For others, there must be some sense of power and accomplishment when you have a method of cheating to win. But at the end of the day I don’t how much it’s worth to be winning play chips from people that you don’t know by cheating.

Maybe I just don’t think like a 15 year old any more.

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5 Responses to Facebook Poker; reprise

  1. John

    It’s extremely hard to gambling at poker, because of the number of groups of people that
    Look at what I wrote here:
    verycoolwriting.com/2008/08/17/why-you-shouldnt-gamble-how-people-cheat-at-online-and-offline-poker/

  2. PokerAnon

    I looked at what you wrote, John, and it looks more like you researched more about cheating possibilities than about learning how to play poker.

    There are far more sophisticated programs than the odds calculators that you mention, for more sophisticated players. Only beginners use odds calculator programs but eventually a player doesn’t need them as their play goes beyond those basics. And everybody worries about collusion, but it happens far less than people worry about, and really, it’s kinda pointless at low stakes anyways.

    Bots always exist, and sites implement methods for tracking/finding them, such as popup messages that need to be clicked on to continue to play, and hand history review. But bots are limited and beatable; they aren’t expert players, they just try to do okay while playing massive numbers of hands in order to earn rakeback.

    None of this has much application to Facebook’s version of poker, which is far more simple and just for entertainment.

  3. bob

    facebook poker is no longer about socialising, the social chatty types of people have all gone. instead youre left with the trolls, dossers, and the stay at home mums, racists and the fake profilers. if you go to the weekly tournie tables, my god, the people who congregate in those rooms are the some of the weirdest lowest cretins ive ever met. facebook has now become extremely untrendy, the middle class have deserted it.

  4. Lorin

    Hey PokerAnon,

    In regards to the writings of John, I find it humorous how a non-poker player can “expertly” address our game when he is obviously not even a real cardplayer. As a cardplayer, most people would and should find my health advice laughable, as I am not a doctor. Therefore, how can he expect that we should should listen to his advice when he is clearly no expert?

  5. Ftchick

    Well… First of all: great post.

    When things start to go bad for me, I tend to quit the games and practice aginst a computer, since it plays after the odds. Not a great advice, but if you’ve got a software for it, you could give it a try. 🙂

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